May 1, 2026
This Was Planned Decades Ago
With Allan and Corri Hunsperger · Guest: Wayne Morrow
Wayne Morrow, CEO of the John Birch Society and a former research scientist, breaks down the long-term ideological movements that have shaped modern institutions. Drawing on history, political philosophy, and themes reflected in 1984, he explains how gradual change—often unnoticed in real time—can lead to major cultural and structural shifts over decades.
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In this episode
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- 00:00 – Opening + foundational verse
- 01:30 – Setting the stage
- 02:18 – Guest joins: Wayne Morrow
- 03:30 – Background and career
- 05:15 – From science to political research
- 06:45 – Introducing long-term ideological movements
- 08:30 – The concept of gradual change
- 10:15 – Why people don’t notice shifts
- 11:45 – Cultural influence over time
- 13:30 – Institutional change explained
- 15:15 – Parallels to 1984
- 16:45 – Media influence and perception
- 18:30 – Why narratives matter
- 20:15 – What this means today
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